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Anorexie, accueil et légitimité

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Dans cet échange d’une cinquantaine de minutes, Thierry reçoit Lucy, qui lui parle de son rapport à l’anorexie, de ce qu’elle a traversé et de ce qu’elle traverse encore. La conversation s’installe lentement, sans protocole, et c’est précisément ce rythme qui permet d’aller là où les échanges habituels sur ce sujet ne vont pas.

Une grande partie de la discussion tourne autour de la notion de légitimité : se sentir autorisé à souffrir, à exprimer ce qu’on ressent, à exister dans sa fragilité sans avoir à se justifier. Thierry aborde la façon dont l’anorexie peut fonctionner comme une réponse à un environnement qui ne laisse pas de place à certaines émotions ou besoins.

L’échange explore aussi ce que signifie accueillir quelqu’un dans ce type de trouble, que ce soit en tant que proche, praticien ou simplement être humain. Thierry et Lucy parlent de ce qui aide réellement, par opposition aux réponses réflexes qui, bien qu’intentionnées, peuvent aggraver le sentiment d’isolement.

Cette vidéo ne propose pas de protocole ni de solution clé en main. Elle offre une conversation honnête sur un sujet que beaucoup vivent en silence, et peut être utile à ceux qui sont concernés directement ou qui accompagnent quelqu’un dans cette situation.


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Oh Hello Lucie? Yes, hello. This is Thierry speaking. Yes, I recognized your voice. It feels weird. Ah yes, it feels weird. Yes. Is my schedule good for you?

Yes, it's ok. Ok. Listen, I told you I would record our conversation and we will decide at the end if we keep it or not. Do you agree? Yes, I agree.

As you wish. Ok. It's as we wish. i don't want to impose anything on you, but you know, depending on what's happening, it can bring a lot to other people and it's nice to be able to share all of this so lucie, how old are you?

i'm 20 years old 20 years old? Oh yes, that's great, it's a pleasure! Actually, there are a lot of young people who contact me, well, very young, sorry, I'm the old one, but I'm almost twice your age, who contact me, and I really find that joyful, it makes me really, really happy. I wonder, well, yes, it raises questions too, there may be more and more young people

who are interested in their diet and... especially that they realize that what we are trying to sell them as absolute truth is not valid, it does not work, and that they ask themselves questions and that they start to walk, for me it is an immense joy So you sent me an e-mail, could you, without going too deep into your intimacy, but what you want to share, explain the content of your e-mail?

I've had food problems since I was 13 years old, so it's been almost 8 years now. Ok, two types of anorexia, right? That's it. Ok. And so, I went through everything in terms of food.

I mean, it was like, yes, I really did anything. In terms of food, I'm looking for a lot, let's say. of course what I didn't do since the beginning I I I had a lot of periods where it was really restrictions where I ate really I could only eat chocolate but in very small quantities it was really I was doing I had a diet there were periods where it was it was really yes, it was mono food and the goal was the restriction yes, it was the restriction, but really a maximum of restrictions it

could be any food, even a food that was bad for health I was not really interested in my health what interested you was to be as thin as possible and not eat It was to eat as little as possible, yes. I don't know if it's indiscreet, but could I know your size and your current weight? I don't know my current weight because it's something that worries me a lot.

Excuse me, yes. I have to do 1.64 meters. I think I have to turn around 40 kilos, I don't know. It was just to get an idea of what it was like. You are not a very strong person, but it's not a case of cachexia.

No, no. It was just to get an idea. At worst, I went down to 35. No, it wasn't a good thing. I've seen much more difficult situations. Yes, that's it. Yes, ok. So now you are looking for something in which you will be more stable and in which you will feel more confident?

Yes, that's it. Yes, because I have trouble trusting what I eat. I have a lot of trouble finding things. I am very afraid of eating bad things. and that's it and you know, it's funny, because actually i talk a lot with people it's funny because well, it's not funny at all but the young people who contact me are often people who have problems either with bulimia or anorexia it's really something taboo but people start to talk about it more and more and what i realize more and more is that finally in anorexia there is the need,

finally, to find a safe environment because what happens is that, finally, in the environment that we were given cooked, transformed, prepared food, in which, finally, the foods are prepared to be appetizing, but you see, in an artificial way, finally you have something that makes you want to eat it but then you read that, finally, this product is not good for you so what is good in taste is not good for you and as your taste is used to salty things and so on the natural things that

are good for you are not good in taste The things we say are good for you, are not good for you. So the individual finds himself completely exploded between two things, between two realities.

There is what is good in taste, and there is what is good for him. And both are unconcilable. And it seems to me that anorexia is also a form of saying, I refuse that.

I refuse that kind of schizophrenic madness in which I can't know for myself what is good for me. I can't feel it because what I eat is deceiving me. Yes, I agree. It can be that.

But it's exactly what society is looking for, it's trying to frustrate people, people are not satisfied, they are in their skin and it makes them consume more. Yes, of course, but it's a conscious or unconscious global plan, I agree with you, that's it. And I see a lot in anorexia, I read a lot, I interpret a lot of anorexia as a form of rebellion in the body, manifesting values that society tries to transmit to us,

our parents too, and it's not for nothing that in anorexia often when people have a psychological approach who are very interested in the relationship to parents and the mother it's not for nothing, because I think that there is really a need let's say in the anorexic person, in any case there is a sensitivity which makes her feel the need to put everything back on the table and to reject in a certain way all the values ​​that have been given to her that they are false, rightly so, I am the first to say that

these values ​​are false and finally it is embodied in the body, it is really embodied in the body Well, yeah, I think that it's, it's, yes, it's, well, there, in addition to thinking about it, well, I have the impression that it's really, it's, it's the fact of not accepting the society in which we live, And also, I have the impression that the food industry has all kinds of strategies to make people addicted to certain tastes, in addition to sugar and salt.

We know that there are studies that have been done and that show that it creates a dependence on the taste and that we tend to ask for more and want more. but that's the goal, because what they are looking for is to sell as much as possible of their products and on top of that, these are products that do not nourish the body exactly, that do not nourish the body and that do not nourish the being all this is a vast deception, it's a huge deception and I think that some people, especially young people

because when we are young, we still have a sensitivity that we have not buried under layers of carapace to protect ourselves finally, well some young people feel this deception feel how much we are making fun of them and above all to have them completely and finally it's a form of extreme rebellion and somewhere what I wanted to tell you this morning is you are perfectly right not to accept this game you are perfectly right to think that all that all of this is false, that all of this is a deception you are perfectly right to question all

the values that we have given you the values of your parents, the values of the society whether it is on the food plan, but even on the other plans if it is the case I am of the kind to think that most of the values that are currently transmitted to us are values that are completely false and finally the problem is that many young people have the perception of it, but they don't know what to do with it so it becomes either an external rebellion, that is, we break,

we burn, we destroy, we deteriorate or an internal rebellion, that is, destruction of oneself, of one's body, one manifests in one's body in a society in which it is the cult of opulence, of money, of eating, of consuming, of consuming don't consume, in a way, is the supreme act of resignation it's to say, i don't fit in your game it's a fabulous manifestation it's fabulous, nobody can stop you from not eating it's an incredible space of freedom but at the

same time, you have to realize that by doing this of course you are opposing the values that are false but at the same time, you are harming your being and you are harming your own being and maybe the way is to, while opposing to values because they are false to find the right way, the way of being in which you allow yourself to become what you have to become what you were asked to do in this world yes, it's nice to hear that What I find very difficult is the isolation, I have a lot of trouble, at the relational level,

I have a lot of trouble finding people who have this kind of idea, or to be in a relationship with people, I think it's missing. and that's what I like about it, the internet doesn't do everything, but that's why I like to see your videos, and to see someone thinking differently, that's nice Internet does not do everything, I am the first to not promote technology, on the contrary, I live very simply, but let's say that I see that in the current world as it is,

it is a tool that we have and that does very beautiful things. So anyway, everything that serves joy and love, I take it, whatever the tool, and of course I would prefer that we do not need it, that we are at a level of consciousness such that we open up to each other with the heart but currently, it's like that and when you tell me that you have a hard time meeting people, it's not for nothing Lucie it's not for nothing, because I think that the sensibility that

you have and to which you have not given up, which means that you have embodied it in your body a good number of people at one point or another in their life, they have this sensibility they feel what you feel but as it's too hard, as it would cause too many things in their life as they do not dare, because they have been a little bit normed by the speech they have received as they do not dare, they shut up, they shut up behind a shell and any individual who manifests something else

and reminds them a little bit that they have renounced some of their ideals well, he has lived as a threat and so you have lived as a threat, I have lived as a threat by many people and all the different people have experienced it as a threat because we are threatening to make their castle collapse which is an illusory castle, a sand castle but it was built to tell a story they told a story about how they would be happy with this life, with this work, with this consumption but in fact there is

a part of themselves that is not asleep and who knows it's wrong and somehow seeing people who do not adhere and who do not want to enter this game it hurts them, because they say to themselves, I gave up and where am I now?

so that's why it's going to be hard, it's going to be hard to meet people you will meet some, I'm sure, but it will be difficult but it's not a reason for you to go into the system and deny yourself and put a shell on you it would not be fair either Yes, but it's true that it scares them to see the difference between everything different and a source of anxiety for people.

It's true that they don't want to ask too many questions about their lives. But it's not a matter of desire, I think it would put too many things at risk, and it's too dangerous, it's too dangerous for the balance of the individual.

Imagine that all your life you make choices, you spend your life, you spend 60 years making choices. And then one day, you have someone who comes and tells you, but you know, I made totally different choices than you, and that's where I am.

well, it can be extremely confusing and it can be very, very bad because we say to ourselves, my God, am I not completely wrong? and am I not totally wrong by something? you see, by a kind of spirit and that's what's happening so it happens at the food level, but it happens at all levels too and in your case, well, it manifests itself at the food level but it also goes through all the movements of rebellion of young people and so on or the will not to work, not to enter this system,

not to consume, not to... all that manifests itself, and it's the same thing and what I wanted to tell you this morning is that you are perfectly right and above all you are perfectly right the question is, there is a real problem that you felt but do you think that the answer you found in your body is the right one?

i don't think so, because you are hurting yourself, and you are not using your life but at the beginning, we don't know, we reject and we don't know where we are going and i am happy that you are watching these videos, i don't think i have the ultimate truth i don't have this pretension but I think you can find a lot of things that will inspire you and that will allow you to feel your own truth and to feel confident with your diet Yes, I think what is missing a lot yes, it's the link with others and among other things,

i think that these videos, it opens me to other thoughts yes, and i think that the increasing number of people watching these videos finally we will find ourselves at a time when people will be able to meet even each other in the same geographical environment you see, because when there will be...

I'm very pretentious and I'm very greedy, so I mean, I tend not to hesitate to ask so in my prayers I ask for big and I ask for a lot, so there is no problem I don't want to limit myself, I want it to stay small, I want it to become very big and that there is a maximum of people who can finally share it would interest me a lot and it would be a great support Yes, that would be...

yes, that's all I want, that people... yes, it's... yes, I agree. And tell me, on a physiological level, how is it going for you right now?

I mean, you... well, you told me that chia seeds brought you a lot. That's a small practical thing, but for anorexic people, I would like you to tell us what happened, because it can help people who have anorexia problems Yes, regarding chia seeds, it totally changed my life because I was addicted to industrial and chemical additives terrible so I took some for a year and it destroyed me completely it's an euphemism I'm afraid I won't be able to

get over it Yes, it's a vicious circle But I stopped almost the day before, we can say And I started taking chia seeds And I haven't had any transit problems since then And really, I thank you for the info about chia seeds I didn't know about it i don't have any more transit problems since i've been taking them i thank you very much for letting me discover this it's very easy to take i can give you an explanation, since you are looking for a scientific explanation so, when we take laxatives,

when we don't use an organ, the organ decreases its function to make the cells progress in our digestive tract, there is something called intestinal peristaltism it's a reflex movement, and if you take laxatives, this reflex movement decreases and if you stop the day or the next day the laxatives, well you are a prisoner of the laxatives because in fact you can no longer do without it, it is a vicious circle indeed and at the same time the laxatives, well they will extremely irritate the entire wall of the intestine which will be

injured in multiple places by the too fast passage of the cells and so when you take chia seeds it's interesting at all levels it's interesting already because it allows you to get rid of laxatives so you stop harming yourself it's interesting because it will create a kind of ballast that will help the movement and it's also interesting because it contains a lot of fatty acids but in a very very simple form that is to say, almost pre-digested but to re-create the wall of the organs and the cellular wall well, it's the fatty acids that we need so it's

going to serve a little bit as a coating for all your digestive tract that has been damaged so you can go for the chia seeds, there is a time when you will need less and less of them the goal is not to stay under the dependence of the chia seeds either but right now tell yourself that it is really something that is curing a little bit what you did to your digestive tract via the laxatives so be calm, you can go for the chia seeds how do you take them? Do you soak them?

No, I take them like this, I leave them in my mouth, a small spoon of coffee, about 3 times a day Ok, perfect, well, everyone has their own technique, but in any case, I really encourage you and tell yourself that it is not a way to replace laxatives with something natural you are really healing, and that's the difference between symptomatic treatment and regeneration you are really regenerating your intestinal mucous and you are not just finding a solution to your constipation problems and

this is really very important for example, if you have someone who is constipated, you can tell him, well, I'm going to give you laxatives no, because the laxative will not solve the problem it will just make you...

it even does the opposite it even does the opposite, but it will instantly purge while here with chia seeds, you slowly restore the normal functioning of your organs and that's fabulous, and that's the real regeneration and now you are in the real for me, really strongly i wanted to ask you a question about chia seeds is it a problem to take them every day?

no because you say that it's not to be dependent on chia seeds no, no, no, what i wanted to tell you is that it's not a problem to take it every day to be dependent on it to go to the salt, that is to say, not being able to go to the salt without the chia seeds in the end, it proves that there was not a complete regeneration of the organs but in itself it's not a problem, it's just on the principle you see what I mean?

it's different from being dependent on something and taking it every day you can take it every day because you think it's good for your body and so on but if by chance one day you don't take it, it's not a disaster while maybe now, at the level you are at, in the regeneration that you are living you may still be a little dependent on it, and that's normal, and that's very good, it's not a problem because there is really a regeneration, but the goal is that once the regeneration is done you will be free,

or not, to take it, and that's the real freedom for me, that's the goal is not to be dependent on something it was just what i wanted to tell you i insist, it is really an exceptional food it is really an exceptional food it is amino acids, predigested fatty acids anyone can take it, even if he has no constipation problem it will benefit him a lot and on the physiological level what other difficulties do you go through?

what have you introduced recently? do you manage to feed yourself? do you use juices? how does it work? i don't have a juicer because i don't know if... it interests me but i wanted to ask you a question about the vegetables you use for the juicer it doesn't require a big budget because because i have financial problems, i don't know if it's ok for you you have to spend a lot in the juicer if you take organic fruits and vegetables, it must be good for your budget, right? yes, this is a question that comes

up a lot so, first of all, i will tell you, the first answer that will be a little tricky know that i am certainly not someone who has a lot of money i live only with social minima, so i don't draw a picture for you, but you can see what i mean and so we live together with social minima because i won't have time to do anything else with the website, with all this work so it's a question, it's going to be easy to answer, it's a question of priority for me,

the priority is to find the physical health and to find, finally, to flourish as a being so I know how to devote the budget that is necessary then, having said that, there is all interest in finding, I don't know where you live, but to find a wholesaler at whom you can buy in bulk and it comes back to you much cheaper anyway i don't know if we live in...

i mean, i'm in Grenoble right now oh yes, in Grenoble, there are fatteners there are fatteners oh yes, we are going to make a call, who is in the Grenoble region, who could indicate a fattener for Lucy but there are fatteners, and frankly, with fatteners, you will be able to buy organic, cheaper than conventional so in addition, you will feed yourself in organic oh yes, that would be interesting yes, yes, and then you buy in cash you know, what we do,

we are not bad in my area, to eat more or less raw food, or even a lot of raw food and so every week there is someone who takes care of the ravito, he goes to the grocery store, he has the cart full, and then we share it and we would take a whole day, and I am quiet, I have my stock of vegetables mainly for the week, and then I buy 2-3 things at the market but I have my stock finally, and I am quiet, I have my crates at home, and I make my juices and frankly I'm doing

well in terms of budget while I'm telling you I'm not I'm not among the poor class of society, let's say Yeah, but on Grenoble on Grenoble, i will find you people, because i think, even people who don't necessarily watch my videos, but also my social network, i will find you people to cooperate with, so it's going to be put in place because, you see, when you talk to me about anorexia, I think you would be one of the people who would benefit enormously from the juice I know it's a bit of my dada right now,

but there will be some regeneration because if there was a food restriction, the glands and organs would have been affected anyway and you are still very young, so it's not terrible, you see, it won't last too long so really it's great, it's great because you can really correct the bar but the addition of juice in your diet could really allow you to quickly regenerate a little bit of all that and in addition you will see, it's a real pleasure, it's a real pleasure to take and overall it's your whole body that will really

enjoy it and it will especially stabilize you in this feeling that you can finally find a diet in which what is good to taste is good for you, you see, and feel confident with that and not always be in saying to yourself, but wait, that's good to taste, but is it really good for me, is it not dangerous and so on there you will really be in confidence, and if you find confidence in food, you will also find confidence in your ability to go towards life and towards what you have to accomplish I don't know

if I'll be able to afford it, I'm still in charge of my mother I don't know if you saw, we have a sponsoring system, we send a call, we look for a sponsor or a sponsor for Lucie, I have no doubt, it's not a big problem.

So all this can be organized, we will organize it together, so at the same time we are looking for addresses in Grenoble and we are looking for a sponsor or a sponsor for Lucie, to sponsor a juicer, it would be a nice thing.

and... go ahead yes, regarding the price of the juicer, could you tell me more? what kind of juicer do you recommend? well, we won't go too far on this, but there is one that I push well it's a model called the Omega 8004 why do I push this model? it's because I tried a lot of them and for me it's the best quality-price-robustness-easy-to-use-easy-to-clean ratio that does not pass plums, because there are some that are deemed of better quality but you spend 2 to 3 times more time and I know that a good number of

people can not afford it it happens to me some days at 3, when I really turn to juice we do 4 liters, 5 liters of juice in the day and I don't want to spend hours doing that So, for me, it's the best ratio at all levels, that's why I recommend this one.

There are cheaper systems, there are centrifuges, but you can't make leafy vegetables, so it's always a little bit limiting, that's why I recommend this model. Okay. But then, on the health plan, in the end, did your food restrictions lead to particular difficulties? What I have the most problems with is the volume I heard the testimony of Sabrina who told me a lot but she didn't have any problem with the volume I don't feel good eating large

amounts of food and it's quite difficult on that side compared to raw foods because to be fed you need a large enough volume in any case more volume than foods that are not transformed so that's where the juices will really be able to help you because in the juices you can find a lot of nutrition whether it's in terms of nutrients but also in terms of calories and in a liquid form, so it will pass very slowly, very easily, and you will not have overload at the level of the stomach since it is directly digested,

it goes directly into your blood so you will see on that side, I think it can really help you a lot to get used to it slowly and then after you will have to go slowly, but at the same time, the more you will feed yourself with raw foods the more your system, your body, will improve its efficiency and finally, the more you will be able to draw from the food you eat do you understand what I mean?

we don't need to eat raw food to be fed what we need is to have organs that work very well and that's why raw food allows us to regenerate the organs that work very well and make us more efficient to draw food from the food we eat and over the years, and especially since the adjunction of juices, I really see that I need a much lower caloric ratio to be in good health, to be in good shape really, I also had a tendency to eat too much, and I was very uncomfortable with that, because I can't stand it and I see that with the adjunction of juices,

I become more efficient to assimilate my foods and becoming more efficient, well, I need less quantity and that's very, very positive for me, very, very positive so don't be... Yes, it must be the advantage of juices to allow a simpler digestion Anyway, tell yourself one thing, you must not be fooled, you must not have this feeling, because it goes against, it goes against the goal is that you find confidence and peace in a way to feed you, so that then you find confidence and peace

in your relationship to life it's not to force yourself to do anything, because here we would be completely in the wrong at the beginning you will take the rations that suit you and anyway, the body is not stupid if you are hungry, and you feel that you have the right food at your disposal it will guide you to the right quantities, don't worry about that So, trust yourself, trust yourself at this level, you eat, the quantities that suit you, at the rate that suits you at the beginning it can be good to do several small meals during the day,

rather than doing two meals, you see it can be much easier to welcome and manage, so as not to have this feeling of overload but it's up to you to know and above all, don't let yourself be told by people that you don't eat enough or you eat too much the values that are promoted around us are not values that are adapted so don't let yourself be normed by that you will find the quantities by yourself and I trust you perfectly and no one is there to tell you the quantities you need to eat yes, i have a lot of trouble to trust myself i

don't know, because there are times when i feel like it's too much but at the same time, there are times when i feel like i'm in total lack of energy but i don't know if it's related to food or if it's something else so be careful, energy is not the food that gives it to you food gives you fuel, energy is mostly sleep so i don't know where you are in terms of sleep yes, but i feel like i sleep a lot do you get to bed early enough in the evening?

in 10 hours, i don't know, maybe not early enough no, it's not bad, it's not bad but i sleep well after you sleep well, ok except the last 2 days, but otherwise i don't have any problem in general you don't have any problem so if you have energy losses, let's say, this feeling of energy loss, it can be, currently already, you eat a lot of raw food, how do you feed yourself now?

Well yes, I eat, now, it's been a few days, well yes, it's been at least a week or two, already before I ate a lot of fruit, but now, yes, I eat, yes, almost everything raw so you eat a lot of fruits to get energy?

yes, i try to eat some bananas, but it is difficult to eat a lot i eat kiwis, pears, i also like vegetables like fennel, cabbage I would say, there is always a moment of transition in which we get out of a system and we enter a new one and we don't have all the rules yet So, I wouldn't be too worried.

It shouldn't last for months and months, but at the beginning, you should be a little bit alert, you know what I mean, knowing exactly how much and everything. It won't worry me, because we've all been through this.

You have to learn a new alphabet somewhere. But this alphabet, it's not someone who will dictate it to you. it's you who will discover it in your own body, your own needs, and you will see at the beginning it may seem complicated, but it's really very simple and very quickly we get to know each other and really know the needs of the day in an extraordinary way, so on that side go, go, go for the fruits, it's your best source of calories, there's no need to look for it don't

hesitate to introduce some fat products from time to time some small amount of Avocados you can slowly re-introduce them I don't know if you have psychological blockages about that or not yes, I tried to re-introduce some Avocados from time to time but I am also afraid of not knowing the quantities you know, we live in a world where people tell us what we need to do so when we are out of the normal, we are a little bit out of control and this is going to be your path, and i hope through these videos to help people to find their own law and their own

self confidence it's up to you to feel it and to feel it, you have to go through trials and tribulations one day you are going to eat a lot, and you are going to say to yourself that it's ok and the next day you are going to say that you ate a little too much and it's from this experience that you are going to know what a little too much is and you don't have to refuse this experience because that's the only way you are going to make your own barometer and when you have made your own barometer so at that moment you will have a strong axis,

a strong conviction, a strong certainty in yourself that you will be unwavering, that is to say that people will be able to tell you things around you you will be calm, you will stay cool and zen, you will say ok, ok, these are your fears but I know where I am, I know where I am and I know where I am going and I think that in a way it is almost the whole appeal of anorexia it is to find your own values, to reject the values that are fallacious and that are trying to deceive us and then

to find your own values, to find your own axis, and that's really the path I'm proposing to you, really, very strongly But I don't doubt it Yeah, but it's a good path, and then wait, you start it at 20 years old, I mean, somewhere some people start this journey at 50 or 60 years old so be happy!

i don't know if i am just starting, i feel like i am on a journey since i was sick yes, you have started to question things anyway yes, i have you have questioned things but i will tell you, in this case, the juices can help you because they will help you with this notion of volume and at the same time they will help you to regenerate all your organs to make them more efficient and i think that for anorexic people, the juices can play a very big role,

especially at the beginning so we will make sure to find someone to sponsor you for a juicer we will make sure to find where you can refuel on Grenoble and so that it fits in your budget too, okay? Well listen Lucy what I would suggest to you is that we stay in touch anyway, that we do a little regular point in the coming days, I hope that as soon as the video will be put online we will have answers in relation to our call for sponsoring and for the suppliers and then we stay in touch, and above all,

above all, above all, we remain convinced that it is you who has your own truth others do not let you be convinced by the truth of others, you can listen to them, it is important to listen to others but do not let them tell you what you are, you see? people who tell you, you are this, you are that, you are anorexic, you are sick, you are not adapted No, it's their fear of them,

it's just their fear of them You, you know who you are, you are a being, you are a wonderful being, I'm sure of it And you just have to discover your own truth and discover the person you have to become And above all, don't let yourself be persuaded otherwise, because it's terrible if you are persuaded otherwise Don't let yourself be persuaded It's super nice to hear that.

I don't hear things like that often, it makes me happy. If you allow me, I would like this video to be put online, because I think it can help a lot of people. Would that be OK for you?

Yes, there is no problem. If you think it can be useful to other people... I really think so Lucie, because this message that it is to stop being carried by others, it is the others that project us on us, but to be able to know your inner truth and to feel stable in what you do is really very important and in your case, in the case of anorexics, it is particularly difficult because the look of others on anorexia is very hard, it is very normative, it is very violent and it's about freeing

yourself from all of that so really, I'm telling you, you have the right you may not have found the best answer but your first feeling was right that the values we were trying to transmit to you were wrong so the answer may not have been the most suitable in terms of your body's health and now you are slowly accessing a much more suitable answer and that's really great, really really great I promise you beautiful transformations in you you risk being quite amazed by the person you are going to become A.

No, it's great, I'm very happy, it's true that the look is often difficult on this disease but that's another... it's still a... we would have a lot to say T.

Yeah, we'll come back to it, but I would like... But we can have an exchange on this subject, the look on the mental illness and the look on the psychological illness, we hate it, we hide our so-called aliens, we hide our physical morons, we hide people who have mental disabilities, we hide, we are afraid but if we hide something, it's because we are afraid of it, that's the only thing it's not that they lock people up absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely and I

also dedicate this video to a friend who is currently in Toulouse and I hope she will be able to see this video and who is currently held against her will in a center where they treat anorexics where they try to standardize anorexics and it makes me crazy every time i think about it and where is it?

because i come from Toulouse and i am interested in... it's called the clinic... i was in a clinic in Toulouse, i don't know if... it's the Castelvieil clinic? Castelvieil yes, i know it yes, ok yes, i was there Well, it's a company that demolishes the total individual It's a company that demolishes...

So you know? It's sure that if she is under medication and other psychotic drugs that put people without really knowing them It's chemical camisole it's chemical camisole it's chemical camisole and for me anorexia is a call it's a call a call to something else and we respond to it by nothingness by emptiness by empty days in which there is no meaning in your life so I had a big thought for this person to also testify to him all my love you also know what it is so if you've been there, you see exactly what it is yes,

I've been there a long time and it's important for me to say to all the people, especially the young people who hear this message and who may have difficulties with anorexia, but there is something else and you can offer a lot more, but find the right answers go get the right answers and build them for yourself but you have the right, you are perfectly right to question all this because these values are values ​​of deception so Lucy on that side, feel strong with that It's nice of you to support me, it's hard to have confidence

in us when we are looked at a little strangely or when we have the impression that the look on the disease is quite hard. Don't worry, I look at you with love, I see the person you are, and I don't care to know what shape your body has You know, in the style, I also have a physique that is very atypical So if I started to formalize myself with that, I would be very very bad in my skin I am with the body that I currently have and that manifests a reality of the moment,

that's all, period But I am much more than that, and you are much more than the shape of your body and the shape of your body is given to evolve and it is there just to serve, to serve the being behind so if we align, the being makes sure that the body is adapted to the task that is asked of it I have the body that corresponds to the task that is asked of me now and you too will have the body that corresponds to the task that is asked of you now that's all, be confident with that, don't worry what I really find very very good is the great respect that there is in

your words and that I want to thank you again because it really makes me happy I find that it's really nice, especially in the society in which we live, to see such great respect for others. You know, it's because I myself, we tried to crush me, it's because I myself, we tried to normalize me, it's because I myself, we tried to break me in all directions, that I know, let's say, what I'm talking about, well, I actually know what it is.

So really, it's not words in the air, and I also thank you for telling me, it touches me a lot, thank you. Lucy, I'm going to wish you a good day. The video will be broadcast soon and we will have reactions very quickly.

At that time, we will put in place what we talked about in this video. We stay in touch and I really thank you for this exchange. I know you told me that it was not easy for you to open up and really you were wonderful.

I thank you. Well, thank you. Have a nice day, Lucie. Yes, have a nice day. Ciao, ciao. Bye. There you go.

You heard it. We're looking for a sponsor, a sailor. We're looking for addresses in Grenoble. And then... We're looking for individuals who don't doubt themselves and who are aware of their sublime reality and who dare to affirm it.

So, often the questions are the right ones, the answers are not quite adapted. Here it was the case. Well, let's find together the right answers. That's what I wish to all of us. I wish you a very, very beautiful day.

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